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Offline pete

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Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« on: March 12, 2008, 02:54:01 pm »
The new german airspace, effective from the 13th of March 2008 you find attached to this post.

If you want to use my Open-Airspace file for programs which are not made by the SeeYou-team please use the file: "OpenAir_....."
The "SeeYou_...." file is usable for SeeYou and SeeYou mobile only.

Attention:
I´ve added a lot of glidersectors all over germany, which can be used by local clubs only. So if you see a line or a sector which do you not see on your map -> stay clear of this area.

Any hints on mistakes etc. are highly welcome

Happy gliding in 2008

Pete
« Last Edit: March 24, 2008, 09:04:34 pm by pete »
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 11:55:28 am »
Hi pete,

thank you for sharing the airspace file.
I have noticed that in your file the CTR around Friedrichshafen has still the old shape. To my knowledge, this area is now a rectangle and reaches well into Switzerland.

CU
S.
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2008, 07:35:33 pm »
Hi Supagirl,

do you have any official information of the new coordinates of the EDNY-CTR?

Thanks in advance

Pete
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2008, 09:46:39 pm »
and here comes the first update. (just a few typos)

Pete
« Last Edit: April 09, 2008, 08:16:50 pm by pete »
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2008, 12:22:32 pm »
Hi Pete,

sorry for my late reply.
I have searched the web for the new coordinates of EDNY-CTR, however, I found nothing.
The new shape can be seen in ICAO map edition 2008 47/6.
I have noticed you have provided a newer version of the airspace file. Thanks again.
Could it be, that in EDDS the shape of airspace D 4500 feet should be cut out by airspace C 3500 and airspace D 5500? It seems to me as it would be an overlay, which would not be  correct. However, maybe I am wrong.

Kind regards,
S.

Quote from: pete on March 23, 2008, 07:35:33 pm
Hi Supagirl,

do you have any official information of the new coordinates of the EDNY-CTR?

Thanks in advance

Pete
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2008, 07:39:47 pm »
Quote from: Supagirl on March 19, 2008, 11:55:28 am
I have noticed that in your file the CTR around Friedrichshafen has still the old shape. To my knowledge, this area is now a rectangle and reaches well into Switzerland.

Quote from: pete on March 23, 2008, 07:35:33 pm
do you have any official information of the new coordinates of the EDNY-CTR?

Perhaps the new coördinates are in the DFS-file?
http://www.daec.de/aul/luftr_d.php
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2008, 11:10:42 pm »
EDRZ sector Pirmasens - is this really a class D airspace?
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2008, 09:59:07 pm »
sector Pirmasens in the CTR of EDRZ is class D (CTR). This sector is valid, when the EDRZ CTR is closed due to military requirements (Polygone)
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008 == 2nd Update==
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2008, 08:20:51 pm »
and here comes the second update for the airspace file valid since the 13th of march 2008.
I have incorporated several hints from user of this forum.

Any further hints on mistakes are welcome

Pete

P.S. The file CU_ED.... is for Seeyou use, the file starting with OpenAir.... for all user programs
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2008, 08:29:49 am »
Hi
I was planning to visit Germany soon and have not yet been able to purchase the latest airspace charts. However, when I loaded your airspace data and compared it with last years, I noticed some changes to Glider sectors around Nurnberg.(I think one is called Seckendorf)  These look like drawing errors ?

Without charts I have now way of checking ? have there been any airspace changes around Nurnberg for 2008 ?

Many thanks
Ian
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2008, 09:12:26 am »
DFS has made German ICAO VFR charts available on-line:

http://www.dfs-vfrebulletin.de/web20/index.htm

Select "ICAO Karten 2008" on the right.
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Offline Ian_Reekie

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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2008, 09:35:43 am »
Thank you, this is very helpful

One other question, do they publish the glider sectors online, I have looked for it but cannot find it. On the last chart I have, this was published separately in the margin above the map symbol key.

Thanks again

Ian
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2008, 12:13:23 pm »
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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 07:19:00 am »
Hi Ian,

there are no changes between 2007 and 2008 in the Nuremberg-area.
But I have incorporated a lot of glider sectors which are only for local club use. For example all of the Seckendorf sectors.
So please use only the sectors which you have on your ICAO-map. Since two years the DFS also provides a special ICAO-map for gliederpilots. All heights in feet and metre, all glidersectors (in yellow) and all airfields with glider operations in yellow and the glidersites with the landing direction.

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Re: Airspace germany effective from the 13th of march 2008
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 08:57:01 am »
Thanks Pete

Its all very clear now, the on-line airspace data is very useful and answered all my questions.

Regards
Ian

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