Author Topic: Which Navigon device is right for me? (Read 7241 times)

Andrej Kolar · « **on:** February 11, 2009, 10:27:55 pm »

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The main reason to choose Navigon over HP Travel Companion is to be able to run high quality software for both car and air navigation software on a single device. Navigon's road navigation is truly superb and 8110 is "something else" in terms of speed, screen size and brightness.

2100 Max, 2110 Max, 2150 Max - larger 4.3" screen than "no max" versions. 16:9 ratio screen makes them particularly useful in Potrait mode where you get to see further ahead due to the extra screen real estate.

7210 utilizes the same screen as the Max versions of the 2xxx series. It has more features on the road and a totally flat front surface. While flat front surface is stylish it may not be very useful for the cockpit. The buttons at the bottom of the screen are intentionally smaller than other buttons because most devices have an edge which helps you place your finger more accurately than elsewhere in a shaky cockpit.

8110 - this is a device which shines literally and figuratively speaking. It has a 4.8" 480x272 pixel screen which is truly special. We have not seen a match to this screen on PNA devices yet. It has a small deficiency - it has a brush-finished stainless steel frame around the screen which looks great but it also reflect the sun somewhat. A superb device in every other respect. Its windscreen holder looks bulky, but hides seamlessly behind the large screen when mounted.

All Navigon devices are able to switch to Portrait mode in SeeYou Mobile right out of the box.

For an unknown reason these devices won't start SeeYou Mobile:
1200, 1210, 2110 - the entry level devices with small 3.5" screen. We are working on a solution.

kerzinger · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2009, 11:01:39 am »

I am just starting to search the "right" device for me. (My previous HP IPAQ 3950 was stolen)

So I have more general questions:

Are the screens of the PNA's (ipaq-31x, Navigon, Mio) more readable under daylight than the 'IPAQ 3950 screen'?

What device out of the newer PNA's is the "right" device for me?

Andrej Kolar · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2009, 12:23:42 pm »

The general answer is:
yes, the screen is better when you are flying into the sun
no, the screen is (much) worse when flying with the sun on your screen

The difference is the screen type and this is a common problem for all PDA/PNA screens newer than 3950.

Which device is "right for you" depends also on your street navigation needs. Do you need street navigation at all? Do you need TMZ? Do you need Bluetooth connection to your phone? etc.

Generally speaking - if you need car navigation then HP 31x is NOT for you.

kerzinger · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2009, 12:45:29 pm »

Sigh! Screen-readability was a major deficiency of the 3950 and difficulties still exist.
The readability with the 3950, flying against the sun, can be improved by mirroring the sun
on the screen, also this is a more tricky solution and not really comfortable.

Will it help on the Navigons to a give a shade on the screen when flying with the sun, for instance by a hand?

I used the 3950 also for street navigation and intend to use my future one also for car navigation.

So my guess is: HP 31x is not the preference if car navigation is required

How compare the Navigon's versus the Mio's in your experience?

And, by the way, I feel a real need to exchange files to the desktop-computer and run an ascii-editor on the PNA. If the operating system is "Windows CE", how are the chances for interoperability?

Andrej Kolar · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:49:26 pm »

It does help to put shade on the screen of PNA devices. This is why they work so well in the car - the sun never shines directly on the screen.

Once you get to the shell of WinCE on Mio/Navigon/HP devices you can install any software you like that runs on WinCE. However this is for the geeks. If you really need these applications then you should stick to the PDA devices. You do not need any other software if you are going to use SeeYou Mobile in flight.

I hope others will comment on the differences between Mio and Navigon devices. Or better still - go to a local store and ask them to show you both devices.

kerzinger · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2009, 09:36:00 pm »

Fortunately putting a shade is easier than mirroring the sun on the screen.

For purposes such as data administration I prefer ascii-files and ascii-editors because they are really portable between different systems and do not change over years. So I used ascii-files on the older 3950 and intend to continue to use ascii-files.

Local stores in Munich (Saturn, Conrad, Mediamarkt) do not support (salesmen have barely no knowledge) on HP IPAQ 31X . So the salesmen give good support on the more selling smart-phones.
In the internet I still did not find the differences between the members of the HP IPAQ 310 ... 318.

Navigon supports the comparison of the models:
http://www.navigon.com/site/de/de/products/car_navigation

The MIO's are still to be explored by me.

So far so good, Andrej thank you very much!

kujo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:47:48 pm »

Hallo,

the differences in the Ipaq 310 ... 318 are only the countrys in which they are sold (i think mainly the maps which are supplied for car navigation. The hardware and ROM should be the same.

Joachim

edwin · « **Reply #7 on:** November 11, 2009, 09:18:56 pm »

someone already experience with the 8410 or 8450

kerzinger · « **Reply #8 on:** November 13, 2009, 01:10:35 pm »

no experience with the 8410 or 8450,

However the question for experience is a good inducement to make remarks about the readability of Hp-314 under daylight-conditions:

compaq-3950 an similar pocket-PCs are better readable than Hp-314

The higher resolution of the screen of the Hp-314 does not help significantly. The low contrast under daylaight-conditions is the main-disadvantage.

One question comes up:
How is the readability under day-light-conditions of 8410 or 8450 compared with the compaq-3950?

Andrej Kolar · « **Reply #9 on:** November 16, 2009, 12:08:01 am »

@kerzinger: A general note on sunlight readability:

. 3950 & co. will always be more readable when the sun is shining on the screen directly due to the mirror in the back of the display.

. PNAs will always be more readable as soon as the screen is outside 30° angle from the perpendicular axis of the screen surface

The test/proof procedure is simple. Take a 3950 and a PNA in your hands, next to each other. Let the sun shine on the screens. The 3950 is clearly more visible. Rotate them 45 degrees towards the sun. They are roughly equal. Rotate them to 90 degrees - the PNA is more visible. Look at them against the sun - you can read almost nothing from the 3950 while you can read the PNA screen just fine.

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